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Rachelle's avatar

My personal opinion is that Shawn and Tim have built their company on the backs of the women who provided uncompensated labor.

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I’m sad to see that Story Grid has gone down this path, but I’m honestly not surprised. 10 years ago I was an avid Story Grid podcast listener. I never missed an episode. I read the book. I did the Foolscap and the spreadsheet for each draft of my novel. I was in the guild. Several of my friends and people in my writing community are from Story Grid. Things started to sour for me after my submission to Story Grid publishing. There was an episode of the podcast where Shawn said if an editor comes to me championing a manuscript and it working in SG terms I’ll accept it for publication because we can work on the prose and line editing after it’s accepted for publication. I wrote down the episode number and timestamps and shared it with my SG editor because I knew she could be that champion for me. In 2020, we spent months getting the manuscript submission ready and putting together our submission packet with the spreadsheet, foolscap, graph and answers to the 5 core questions. A few months passed and it was rejected and they said it took so long to decide because there was a lot of internal deliberation about whether to accept or reject my manuscript. During a state of Story Grid update video they said they were pausing Story Grid publishing because the prose and scene level craft of manuscripts they were getting weren’t up to their standards. During that update they referenced my manuscript anonymously as an example and said it’s working because all scenes and the global story hit the five commandments but the story still didn’t “work” because of the scene level prose. This is where I started to go hang on we didn’t focus on this because on the podcast you said writers could fix that after being accepted. They also announced they were starting an incubator experiment to give intense focus to a manuscript to get it where it needs to go and they would record these incubator session so people could listen on the podcast. Then if it worked they’d role out an incubator program. I emailed Tim and asked if I could be the test subject for the first incubator experiment because I figured if my manuscript is that close incubation will push it over the edge. I also thought since Tim has spent years getting mentorship from Shawn so maybe they want to see if this technique works on someone else. Tim and I got on a call and he said no that he should be the first person to go through it because the experience might be “too intense” for me even though intensity was exactly what I was looking for. I was a bit put off by the whole experience but I figured rejection is part of the process so I stayed in the guild through 2021 and finally left in 2022 after I realized that their pivot into Story Grid 2.0 wasn’t serving my writing the way the OG book did and as I became friends with SG editors I started to hear more about how they were being treated behind the scenes which confirmed my decision to not renew my membership. I didn’t know it at the time but that October 2020 rejection is what made my creative life really take off because it forced me to do a lot of introspection which is the foundation of my current creative practice. Long story long but I wanted to add my two cents about my experience with SG.

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